A Republic or Monarchy?

This important Benjamin Franklin quote contrasting monarch and republic is often misquoted.

Here is the actual Sep. 18, 1787 diary entry by Founder James McHenry.

James McHenry. (Sep. 18, 1787). Diary re. Benjamin Franklin, Mrs. Powel, monarchy or republic, James McHenry Papers, Manuscript Division, LOC (63.02.00) [Digital ID# us0063_02p1. Library of Congress.

“A lady asked Dr. Franklin: Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy —A  republic, replied the Doctor, if you can keep it. 

The lady here alluded to was Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia.

5 thoughts on “A Republic or Monarchy?”

  1. The form of Republic we are to have was never documented for it’s form and the responsibilities to it.
    This also the cause for the first breach of the US Constitution Article IV that stated each and every State shall have a Republican form of government. Not one State ever submitted their Constitution to be Certified as Republican in form. They all wrote their own.

    1. Remember Washington capitulated to Cornwallis and never wrote a Doctrine of Conquest claiming any of the spoils of war fought for. Instead he allowed King George to dictate the terms for ending the war in 1783.

      1. The Treaty of Paris, signed on September 3, 1783, ended the American Revolutionary War between Great Britain and the United States and its allies. The terms of the Treaty of Paris greatly enlarged the boundaries of the United States, enabling the young nation to rapidly become a major international trading partner.

        Followed by three ten year cycle negotiations involving debt addressed in the Jay Treaty for obtaining freedom for sailors ships and travel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Treaty

        Both sides achieved many objectives. Several issues were sent to arbitration, which (after years of discussion) were resolved amicably mostly in favor of the U.S. Britain paid $11,650,000 for damages to American shipping and received £600,000 for unpaid pre-1775 debts. While international arbitration was not entirely unknown, the Jay Treaty gave it a strong impetus and is generally taken as the start of modern international arbitration.

        USA forts occupied by the British prior to the Jay Treaty. The British agreed to vacate its forts in United States territory—six in the Great Lakes region and two at the north end of Lake Champlain—by June 1796; which was done. They were:

        Name Present-day location
        Fort au Fer Lake Champlain – Champlain, New York
        Fort Dutchman’s Point Lake Champlain – North Hero, Vermont
        Fort Lernoult (including Fort Detroit) Detroit River – Detroit, Michigan
        Fort Mackinac Straits of Mackinac – Mackinac Island, Michigan
        Fort Miami Maumee River – Maumee, Ohio
        Fort Niagara Niagara River – Youngstown, New York
        Fort Ontario Lake Ontario – Oswego, New York
        Fort Oswegatchie Saint Lawrence River – Ogdensburg, New York
        The treaty was “surprisingly generous” in allowing Americans to trade with Great Britain on a most-favored-nation basis. In return, the United States gave most favored nation trading status to Britain, and acquiesced in British anti-French maritime policies. American merchants obtained limited rights to trade in the British West Indies. Two joint boundary commissions were set up to establish the boundary line in the Northeast (it agreed on one) and in the Northwest (this commission never met and the boundary was settled after the War of 1812).

        Jay, a strong opponent of slavery, dropped the issue of compensation for slaves, which angered Southern slaveholders and was used as a target for attacks by Jeffersonians. Jay was unsuccessful in negotiating an end to the impressment of American sailors into the Royal Navy, which later became a key issue leading to the War of 1812.

      2. Christopher, it only took 10 years to build the foundations for the King’s America to be set so they could be built on into the future. !781 – 1791
        Some fact you bypassed, after General Cornwallis read General Washington the riot act for what was to become of America by deceit, Washington did nothing for the patriots that fought against the King for their freedoms and liberties. https://911nwo.com/?p=7775 Fact,
        Washington did not create a Doctrine of Conquest claiming all the spoils of war that were fought for. Traitor! The deceitful Deep States foundations were in queue.

        The King’s 1783 Treaty allowed by Head Mason Washington and negotiated by Franklin as a Head Mason and Esquire for the King. All others that signed the Treaty were the King’s Esquires by their signatures. None of the 3 Percenters, comprised of the Paul’s Raiders, Minute Men or any other colonist were allowed to be part of the 1783 Treaty in Paris.. https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/paris.asp
        After this Treaty was signed the patriots, common man and other colonist were not allowed to vote, own their property with free and clear title (Allodial title of Land Patent) the 13 Colonies lost the right to chose their Common law as their Rule of Law form. The Thirteen Colonies considered their choice to be the final bases for all law in America or ever to be in America… “the colonies were so impressed with the idea of an overruling law of nature that the laws of God and so-called natural laws were regarded as the true laws, and all temporal legislation was considered to be binding only in so far as it was an expression of this natural law” Yes, back then there was a moral white hat. James Wilson, the foremost lawyer at the Constitutional Convention, a signer of the Declaration of Independence, and a man who was appointed to the Supreme Court in 1789 and was well familiar with this legal principal stated above called Natural Law and stated; “Parliament may, unquestionably, be controlled by natural or revealed law, proceeding from divine authority”. It seems the King and the King’s men overruled this with their man-made Laws of the Sea, Maritime, and Admiralty Law.
        https://www.lawbookexchange.com/pages/books/40766/paul-samuel-reinsch/english-common-law-in-the-early-american-colonies, and would soon lose the right to chose their own banking, currency and commerce forms as well.
        1789, congress knew what the King’s treaty had done and the the King claimed as his capacities as Arch-treasure and Price Elector of the united States of America. King George made his States/Governors free and sovereign not We The People. who were those governors? MASONS. http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Essays/jdcarter.html The people remained as they were prior to the war.as Citizen Subjects, Chattel and Debt Slaves. Please note those titles of capacity the King claimed were bestowed on him by the Holy Roman Empire.
        Therefor the very First Act of Congress 1789 before Washington was to be sworn in as POTUS, Congress made it law that no one would repeated the title words of the US Constitution “the Constitution for the United States of America” for purposes of taking the oath of office. All take an oath to a document title that does not exist anywhere in law or at law. https://www.cop.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/The_Senates_First_Act_-_The_Oath_Act.htm
        Washington was sworn in by another Mason on the Masonic bible.
        To set the financial foundations for America in 1791 Washington, Hamilton, King George and his Tories created their foreign banking system. We all know what that morphed into (Federal Reserve), and later with the additions of their other NGOs as the IRS and SSA money collectors.

        It only took ten years for the the English game of snooker to be well played on us. you must always know with great understanding what took place in the first chapter of any event. what happens in the first chapter stands today, only the methods of harm have changed. It was all fraud in the beginning.
        We the People may have won the physical war, but lost it by legal contract in1783.
        From a wrong no contract can arise.
        False in one thing, false in all things.
        It is a fraud to conceal a fraud.
        Fraud and justice never dwell together.
        Fraud lies hidden in general expressions.
        Fraud is most hateful to law.
        In default of the law, the maxim rules.
        A mandate of an illegal thing is void.
        Remove the foundation, the work falls.

      3. Also, remember Jay as one of the King’s Esquires that signed the King’s 1783 Treaty as his representative. This Treaty has allowed all the harms done to us to this date. They all knew what a Doctrine of Conquest would have meant. This conquest document would have documented that a victorious nation (America) in war acquired sovereignty over the conquered nation (British Crown) and could exert its own legal and political jurisdiction chosen by its sovereign residents.
        The practice for creating a doctrine of conquest dates back at least to Roman law. Instead, George Washington allowed King George III to dictate his own Trilateral Treaty terms for ending the physical war.

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